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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek: Kirk&#8217;s Crew vs. Picard&#8217;s Crew</title>
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		<title>By: HellsColdDay</title>
		<link>http://combatic.com/?p=40&#038;cpage=1#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>HellsColdDay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain Log: StarDate Dec 5th,

I learned today that randomly pressing Data&#039;s scalp buttons will either (a) Turn him off, (b) Make him angry, or (c) Eject a CD-ROM from where the sun don&#039;t shine.

That is all.</description>
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<p>I learned today that randomly pressing Data&#8217;s scalp buttons will either (a) Turn him off, (b) Make him angry, or (c) Eject a CD-ROM from where the sun don&#8217;t shine.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://combatic.com/?p=40&#038;cpage=1#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the contestants line up to face one another. Picard tries to talk his way out of this.  Kirk would just KO picard with one swing. Picard is out. Scotty yanks the visor off of LaForge. WIthout it Laforge is blind as a bat.  Scotty also knocks out Laforge with one blow.  So this leaves Data, Riker, and Worf alone against Chekov, scotty, mccoy, spock, and kirk. McCoy and Scotty both charge at Worf. Worf tries to get the two off of him. Riker tries to grab hold of spock and do a judo throw on him. Spock uses his nerve pinch and drops Riker on the spot. McCoy and Scotty are both thrown away by Worf.  Kirk jumps kick Worf in the chest. Worf tries to do his mok bara moves on Kirk but the won&#039;t work when Kirk knees Worf in the groin. Worf bends over in pain. Kirk then dobule fist punches Worf in the back screaming I hate klingons. Chekov runs and punches Data. Data is unfazed. Chekov punches Data repeatedly in the abdomen.  Chekov is then hurled to the other side of the room.   McCoy go helps Chekov. Scotty and Spock keep Data preoccupied. Kirk jumps on Data and from his experience knows this is a android. Kirk yanks off the scalp and just pushes whatever buttons he can. Data then shuts down and falls to the floor. Chekov is injured. McCoy beams back with Chekov.  Kirk, Spock, and scotty look at their defeated fows. KIrk gives a eulogy speech on how it&#039;s wrong to beat up the weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the contestants line up to face one another. Picard tries to talk his way out of this.  Kirk would just KO picard with one swing. Picard is out. Scotty yanks the visor off of LaForge. WIthout it Laforge is blind as a bat.  Scotty also knocks out Laforge with one blow.  So this leaves Data, Riker, and Worf alone against Chekov, scotty, mccoy, spock, and kirk. McCoy and Scotty both charge at Worf. Worf tries to get the two off of him. Riker tries to grab hold of spock and do a judo throw on him. Spock uses his nerve pinch and drops Riker on the spot. McCoy and Scotty are both thrown away by Worf.  Kirk jumps kick Worf in the chest. Worf tries to do his mok bara moves on Kirk but the won&#8217;t work when Kirk knees Worf in the groin. Worf bends over in pain. Kirk then dobule fist punches Worf in the back screaming I hate klingons. Chekov runs and punches Data. Data is unfazed. Chekov punches Data repeatedly in the abdomen.  Chekov is then hurled to the other side of the room.   McCoy go helps Chekov. Scotty and Spock keep Data preoccupied. Kirk jumps on Data and from his experience knows this is a android. Kirk yanks off the scalp and just pushes whatever buttons he can. Data then shuts down and falls to the floor. Chekov is injured. McCoy beams back with Chekov.  Kirk, Spock, and scotty look at their defeated fows. KIrk gives a eulogy speech on how it&#8217;s wrong to beat up the weak.</p>
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		<title>By: HellsColdDay</title>
		<link>http://combatic.com/?p=40&#038;cpage=1#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>HellsColdDay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice ending Will, if not unlikely. I will agree that if luck was to help either team, it would be Kirk&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice ending Will, if not unlikely. I will agree that if luck was to help either team, it would be Kirk&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://combatic.com/?p=40&#038;cpage=1#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spock suggests that this end now, knowing deep down that Data will most probably be the last android standing, but Worf doesn&#039;t listen to reason and rushes Spock in a Klingon rage, Kirk intercepts Worf and clips his legs breaking one of them and Worf and Kirk hit the ground in a grapple, Data moves in towards Spock and Spock asks Data if he is capable of pain. Data returns the answer, &quot;I&#039;m programed to experience it but I have disabled that program temporarily.&quot; Spock returns, &quot;logical&quot;, then adds &quot;perhaps you should re-enable it. I plan on doing something quite painful to you.&quot; Data pauses and shifts his head slightly and says &quot; done, I have enabled it again, although I do not believe it will give you an advantage&quot;. At that moment Kirk jumps on Data&#039;s back while driving his knee into his lumbar, causing Data to quickly react to pull Kirk off, but Spocks hand is immediately on Data&#039;s neck and Data flips his head back towards Spock and falls to his knees, motionless. Spock says &quot;Captain, I didn&#039;t think my attack would work on this android&quot;. Kirk replies, &quot;I was trying to distract him so you could apply your vulcan grip but something strange happened, I felt my knee shift something in his back&quot;.  

Winner: Classic crew by sheer luck and teamwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spock suggests that this end now, knowing deep down that Data will most probably be the last android standing, but Worf doesn&#8217;t listen to reason and rushes Spock in a Klingon rage, Kirk intercepts Worf and clips his legs breaking one of them and Worf and Kirk hit the ground in a grapple, Data moves in towards Spock and Spock asks Data if he is capable of pain. Data returns the answer, &#8220;I&#8217;m programed to experience it but I have disabled that program temporarily.&#8221; Spock returns, &#8220;logical&#8221;, then adds &#8220;perhaps you should re-enable it. I plan on doing something quite painful to you.&#8221; Data pauses and shifts his head slightly and says &#8221; done, I have enabled it again, although I do not believe it will give you an advantage&#8221;. At that moment Kirk jumps on Data&#8217;s back while driving his knee into his lumbar, causing Data to quickly react to pull Kirk off, but Spocks hand is immediately on Data&#8217;s neck and Data flips his head back towards Spock and falls to his knees, motionless. Spock says &#8220;Captain, I didn&#8217;t think my attack would work on this android&#8221;. Kirk replies, &#8220;I was trying to distract him so you could apply your vulcan grip but something strange happened, I felt my knee shift something in his back&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Winner: Classic crew by sheer luck and teamwork.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only a standard class nerd (collects video games, favorite music: classical) so I&#039;m no expert in Star Trek lore, but there may be some truth to the offswitch weakness for Data. Obviously, when creating an android with such intelligence and strength they would wire in some safety precautions in case he turned bad. So deep in Star Trek lore there probably is some emergency shut-off for Data. but I don&#039;t know what it is or how it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m only a standard class nerd (collects video games, favorite music: classical) so I&#8217;m no expert in Star Trek lore, but there may be some truth to the offswitch weakness for Data. Obviously, when creating an android with such intelligence and strength they would wire in some safety precautions in case he turned bad. So deep in Star Trek lore there probably is some emergency shut-off for Data. but I don&#8217;t know what it is or how it works.</p>
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		<title>By: HellsColdDay</title>
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		<dc:creator>HellsColdDay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With his mind?...but...I though...oh, nevermind.

Very detailed answer that I totally agree with. Kirk could take the run-of-the-mill Next Gen officer as well as Picard, but Data could take anyone. Unless of course Spock could find his off switch...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With his mind?&#8230;but&#8230;I though&#8230;oh, nevermind.</p>
<p>Very detailed answer that I totally agree with. Kirk could take the run-of-the-mill Next Gen officer as well as Picard, but Data could take anyone. Unless of course Spock could find his off switch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://combatic.com/?p=40&#038;cpage=1#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is the Next Generation has this battle won from the beginning because of their secret weapon, data. In combat, Data is superior to all other mentioned characters in reaction speed, strategy, strength, movement speed, and no fear/experience of pain or fatigue and only a calculated fear of death. So when you remove weapons from the equation, it would take a huge number of people to bring down Data just on his own. I say Data could take out the entire 1st generation crew by himself. Now where Data loses is strategic combat on a HUGE scale such as intergalactic war, where he could not possibly understand the effects and weight of emotion and how it can be used to manipulate people. Nor could he be effective on a spy mission/assassination attempt, due to his minimal acting skills.  And then there&#039;s Worf, who would be the underdog but still have a feasible chance of also taking out the entire 1st generation crew by himself. So with no weapons allowed Picard&#039;s crew wins, there&#039;s no doubt.

Also, Picard, though bound to a wheelchair, has immense telekinetic abilities and could kill anyone on the other crew just with his mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is the Next Generation has this battle won from the beginning because of their secret weapon, data. In combat, Data is superior to all other mentioned characters in reaction speed, strategy, strength, movement speed, and no fear/experience of pain or fatigue and only a calculated fear of death. So when you remove weapons from the equation, it would take a huge number of people to bring down Data just on his own. I say Data could take out the entire 1st generation crew by himself. Now where Data loses is strategic combat on a HUGE scale such as intergalactic war, where he could not possibly understand the effects and weight of emotion and how it can be used to manipulate people. Nor could he be effective on a spy mission/assassination attempt, due to his minimal acting skills.  And then there&#8217;s Worf, who would be the underdog but still have a feasible chance of also taking out the entire 1st generation crew by himself. So with no weapons allowed Picard&#8217;s crew wins, there&#8217;s no doubt.</p>
<p>Also, Picard, though bound to a wheelchair, has immense telekinetic abilities and could kill anyone on the other crew just with his mind.</p>
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